Senate Debate on Empathy
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Leahy, Patrick [D-VT]
 
Begin 2009-08-06 14:11:35
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Mr. LEAHY. Mr. President, I thank the Senator from Alabama for his kind comments. As he knows, I made similar comments about him this morning in the Senate Judiciary Committee. I reiterate them here today.

We did decide, both Senator Sessions and I, at the beginning of this process that we would try to make sure everybody was heard. We may have different outcomes on how everybody would vote, but everybody was heard. That has been done. I compliment the leaders of the Senate for doing that.

We are about to conclude Senate consideration of this nominee. I thank those Senators who evaluated this nomination fairly. I thank especially those Republican Senators who have shown the independence to join the bipartisan confirmation of this historic nomination. I thank all Senators on both sides of the aisle who spent hours and hours and days and days in our hearings.

Some critics have attacked President Obama's nomination of Judge Sonia Sotomayor by contending he picked her for the Supreme Court to substitute
empathy for the rule of law. These critics are wrong about the President; they are wrong about Sonia Sotomayor.

Let's leave out the rhetoric and go to the facts. When the President announced his choice of Judge Sotomayor 10 weeks ago, he focused on the qualities he sought in a nominee. He started with ``rigorous intellect'' and ``a mastery of the law.''

He then referred to recognition of the limits of the judicial role when he talked about ``an understanding that a judge's job is to interpret, not make, law; to approach decisions without any particular ideology or agenda, but rather a commitment to impartial justice; a respect for precedent, and a determination to faithfully apply the law to the facts at hand.'' That is what President Obama said.

Then he went on to mention experience. He said:

Experience being tested by obstacles and barriers, by hardship and misfortune; experience insisting, persisting, and ultimately overcoming those barriers. It is experience that can give a person a common touch and a sense of compassion; an understanding of how the world works and how ordinary people live. And that is why it is a necessary ingredient in the kind of justice we need on the Supreme Court.

Then the President concluded by discussing how Judge Sotomayor has all these qualities. The President was looking not just for lawyerly ability, but for wisdom--for an understanding of how the law and justice work in the everyday lives of Americans.

In a subsequent radio and Internet address, the President reiterated the point when he said:

As a Justice of the Supreme Court, she will bring not only the experience acquired over the course of a brilliant legal career, but the wisdom accumulated over the course of an extraordinary journey--a journey defined by hard work, fierce intelligence, and the enduring faith that, in America, all things are possible.

President Obama did not say that he viewed compassion or sympathy as a substitute for the rule of law. In fact, he has never said he would substitute empathy for the rule of law. That is a false choice. The opposition to this nomination is based on a false premise.

When she was first named, Judge Sotomayor said: ``I firmly believe in the rule of law as a foundation for all our basic rights.'' Judge Sotomayor reiterated time and time again during her confirmation hearing her fidelity to the rule of law. She said:

Judges can't rely on what's in their heart. They don't determine the law. Congress makes the laws. The job of the judge is to apply the law. And so it's not the heart that compels conclusions in cases. It's the law. The judge applies the law to the facts before that judge.

Those who, after 4 days of hearing, would ignore her testimony, should at least take heed of her record as a judge. Judge Sotomayor has demonstrated her fairness and impartiality during her 17 years as a judge. She has followed the law. There is no record of her substituting her personal views for the law. The many independent studies that have closely examined Judge Sotomayor's record have concluded it is a record of applying the law, not bias.

What she has said, and what we should all acknowledge, is the value her background brings to her as a judge and would bring to her as a Justice, our first Latina Justice.

Judge Sotomayor is certainly not the first nominee to discuss how her background has shaped her character. Justice O'Connor has acknowledged, ``We are all creatures of our upbringing. We bring whatever we are as people to a job like the Supreme Court.'' Everybody knows that, just as all 100 of us bring who we are to the Senate.

Many recent Justices have spoken of their life experiences as influential factors in how they approach the bench. Justice Alito and Justice Thomas, nominated by Republican
Presidents, did so famously at their confirmation hearings, and then they were praised by the Republican side of the aisle for doing so. Indeed, when the first President Bush nominated Justice Thomas to the Supreme Court, he touted him as an ``intelligent person who has great
empathy.''

Some of those choosing to oppose this historic nomination have tried to justify their opposition by falsely contending that President Obama is pitting
empathy against the rule of law. Not so. Not so. This President and this nominee are committed to the rule of law. They recognize the role of life experience not as a substitute for the law or in conflict with its mandates, but as informing judgment.

What is really at play is not a new Obama ``
empathy standard'' with respect to judicial selection, but a double standard being applied by those who supported the nominations of Justice Alito and Justice Thomas.

Judge Sotomayor's career and judicial record demonstrate that she has always followed the rule of law. The point is, we don't have to guess at what kind of a judge she has been. She has had more experience on the Federal court, both trial level and appellate level, than any nominee in decades. She will be the only member of the U.S. Supreme Court with experience as a trial judge. We don't have to guess. There are well over 3,000 cases, so we don't have to guess. Attempts at distorting that record by suggesting that her ethnicity or her heritage would be the driving force in her decisions as a Justice of the Supreme Court are demeaning to women and all communities of color.

I have spoken over the last several years about urging Presidents from both political parties to nominate someone from outside the ``judicial monastery.'' I believe that experience, perspective, an understanding of how the world works and people live, and the effect decisions will have on the lives of people are very important qualifications. By striving for a more diverse bench drawn from judges with a wider set of backgrounds and experiences we can better ensure there will be no prejudices
and biases controlling our courts of justice. All nominees have talked about the value they will draw on the bench from their backgrounds. That diversity of experience and strength is not a weakness in achieving an impartial judiciary.

I have voted on every member of the current U.S. Supreme Court. I have participated in the hearings of all but one of them, and that one I voted on the nomination having watched the hearing. I have sat in on the hearings of Justices no longer there, either because of retirement or death. I have conducted hundreds of nomination hearings--everything from courts of appeals judges, Federal district court judges, and Department of Justice appointees. I have been ranking member on two Supreme Court
nominations and conducted this one. I mention that to thank the Senator from Alabama for his cooperation during it.

After those hundreds of hearings, you get a sense of the person you are listening to. I met for hours with Judge Sotomayor, either in the hearing room or privately. You learn who a person is, you really do, in asking these kinds of questions. You have to bring your own experience and your own knowledge to [Page: S8943]
what you are hearing. There are only 101 people in this great Nation of 300 million people who get a say as to who is going to be one of the nine members
of the U.S. Supreme Court. First and foremost, it is the President who makes the nomination, but then the 100 of us in the U.S. Senate who must follow our own conscience, our own experience, our own abilities in deciding whether we will advise and consent to that nomination. It is an awesome responsibility, and we should do it not because we are swayed by any special interest group of either the right or the left.

In fact, I have a rule--my office knows it very well--that in Supreme Court confirmations I will not meet with groups on either the right or the left about it. I will make up my mind through those hours and days and the transcripts of the hearing. I would urge all Senators to do that. I think it is unfortunate if any Senator of either party were to make up their mind on a Supreme Court nominee based on pressure from special interest groups from either the right or the left. That is a disfavor
to those hundreds of millions of Americans who don't belong to pressure groups of either the right or the left. They expect us to stand up.

That is what we should do on Judge Sotomayor. This is an extraordinary nominee. I remember when President Obama called me a few hours before he nominated her. I was with our troops in Afghanistan, and he explained what he was going to do in a few hours. We talked about that and we talked about Afghanistan, but we talked especially about her. He said, you know, there are Web sites already developing opposed to her. And within hours, we had leaders calling her racist, bigoted, or being affiliated
with a group akin to the Ku Klux Klan. Fortunately, Senators on neither side joined with that.

We are almost at a time for a vote. I would hope every Senator would search his or her conscience and ask whether they are voting for this nominee based on their oath of office, based on their conscience, or are they reflecting a special interest group.

When the Judiciary Committee began the confirmation hearings on this Supreme Court nomination, and when the Senate this week began its debate, I recounted an insight from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., which is often quoted by President Obama. ``Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.''

It is distinctly American to continually refine our Union, moving us closer to our ideals. Our union is not yet perfected, but with this confirmation, we will be making progress.

Years from now, we will remember this time when we crossed paths with the quintessentially American journey of Sonia Sotomayor and when our Nation took another step forward through this historic confirmation process. I urge each Senator to honor our oath, our Constitution, and our national promise by voting his or her conscience on the nomination of Sonia Sotomayor to serve as a Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. I will proudly vote for her.

Mr. President, I see the Republican leader is here, and I will reserve the remainder of my time.