Pain, Violence, Justice and a Quest for
Empathy at the Oakland Oscar Grant - Johannes Mehserle Verdict Protest, July 8,
2010
Here is a 10 minute video and around 40 of the raw interviews I took at
the protest. I went around and asked people to tell me about empathy
and how it related to the shooting, trial and protest. I hope this will start a
dialog about the role of empathy in society and especially about how we can
start building a culture of empathy.
"I've
been sitting here watching the raw footage experiencing some kind of awe. I'm
feeling very moved and inspired by this work! I think this footage is so
powerful for both the content (about empathy, as well as other things people
want to say), and process (I love that I'm seeing empathy happening right in
the discussion)." Sherry
Pain,
Violence, Justice and a Quest for Empathy
at the Oakland Oscar Grant - Johannes
Mehserle Verdict Protest
Full Interviews below
Raw 01 - Seeking Empathy at Oscar
Grant-Mehserle Oakland Verdict Protest
Tell Me About empathy?
That's a lot of shoes?
Yes, that's a lot of shoes
I hope this all comes down to the
mat
I think he's going to get jail
been trained - but abused a gun
The man was just frightened
Needed more training in empathy?
yes, needs more training
all these signs out here about
cop killers
they need to be trained before you
can become a cop and all
Why do you go in there scared?
Don't be scared
I got hit in the face when they
stopped me
The fear maybe makes empathy
shrink-up?
What can we do to build a culture of
empathy?
keep doing what we're doing now
we can't go behind closed doors and
talk
that won't do anything
We have to get out here and voice
our speech
that's what it is
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Tell Me About empathy?
Orlando Johnson
empathy and sympathy to me
empathy is when the judge says
my sympathy is for the pain and
hurt of the family
what I can do is is educate
My phone number is...
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Tell Me About empathy?
my empathy goes to the family
it's history
we got to come together and connect
learn form the situation and learn
from
I can't imagine what the family is
going through
it's sad
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Tell Me About empathy?
Empathy is love?
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Tell me about empathy?
when you look through their eyes and
in their shoes
you can't feel what they feel
you can't understand what they're
thinking at the movement
there's no Justice in empathy
as far as the murder goes
you can be sympathetic
what about his mom and kids
does the guy have a clear
conscience?
The Jurors didn't empathize?
they were sympathetic about it
but they're not thinking of
Grant's family
we'll give it involuntary man
slaughter and make it go away
they didn't put themselves in his
shoes
your only 22 once in your
lifetime
How can we deepen empathy?
Look at yourself in the mirror
educate yourself
see if you can impact other's
life
help them up
so they can pass it on
there's power in numbers
speak out, to anyone who needs
We look for people who need help
and reach out?
it's not look, it happens on it's own
giving a young lady a dollar for
a soda
It's not about me, me, me, me
it's about somebody else too
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Oakland
Tell Me About empathy?
empathy to me is the opposite from
sympathy
you feel the same pain that's
happening
sympathy is sympathy to what
happened
empathy is that same thing could
happen to you.
I'm empathetic about this brother
because these things are happening to me all the time
I haven't been shot in the back yet,
but I know it's coming
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Tell Me About empathy?
Honey Bear listens
Obama and empathy
want more integrity?
disingenuous, he's a fraud
come clean with the public
be honest
words without action
He doesn't have integrity
I'm from Florida and respect for Life and Ocean
Obama allows BP to run cleanup
he's not leading
Empathy is to have direct knowledge of pain or joy
sympathy is intellectual
Empathy is direct relationship,
physical
I tell you the taste of a fish, until
you taste it, you will not know.
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Tell Me About empathy?
Edward 21 years
Empathy, - those 3 officers don't
want to be here
I'm trying to put myself
through school
Oakland don't want to do anything
for us
keep us segregated in West Oakland
Don't do the back people wrong
People aren't empathizing with
you?
How to create a culture of
empathy?
that's the question
first come down here, but not
just on these kind of days
on a regular days
see the everyday life
only 30 % of homicides get solved
in Oakland
We need to listen to each other?
starts with outreach with the
youth
see what the kids want
just come down and talk to us
the police don't come down to
talk with them
people come back and police their
own neighborhoods
The everyday stresses
my brother was killed. it was
unsolved
You want the police to come down and
talk to you?
yes, not everyone wants to talk
ignorantly to them
there's things we would like to get
out to them
but we want respect back
you come in with an attitude of your
superior
of course no-one wants to respect
you
your a human being just like us
your job is no more important that
ours
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Tell Me About empathy?
What does justice have to do
with empathy?
Do you have thoughts on empathy?
Excuse me, About empathy?
no, no, we're talking about
justice
We're doing something else here
that's a good question
I'm not answering questions
this is not for you
How can people connect?
You want empathy for the oppressed?
I appreciate what your doing
but we're doing something else
some other time I'd love to talk
with you
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Tell Me About empathy?
The police didn't empathize with
you?
the police attacked me for no
reason
they did me like Oscar Grant,
but they just didn't shoot me
How can we create a culture of
empathy?
we need more black people in
charge
more people who live in the
community
instead of people who come from
different areas
Local people in charge?
They'd know how it feels?
We need to get connected
locally?
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Mehserle Verdict Protest in Oakland
Tell Me About empathy?
What does it have to do with
what's going on here with Justice?
there's not a lot of empathy?
How can we have more empathy?
have more justice
We can hope
We can try
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Tell Me About empathy?
I understand what you're saying to
a degree
it takes more than
it's action
people care more about their
interests
casual good people, not on regular
basis
Practice makes perfect, no it makes
improvement
we are lead by example
Live for the moment which may not
be the bigger
How to make culture of empathy?
Any lessons of empathy?
learned a lot
I work with disabled comedians
putting together puzzles
I want rewards from helping people
Planning Seeds of empathy
We need to plant the seed of
empathy?
When did you feel empathy?
you planted a seed of empathy in me
When people give me empathy I have
more for others.
you have reserves of empathy
look at the bigger picture.
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Outside people-agitators have taken
over
they're breaking windows
Police are calling an unlawful
assembly
it's becoming an uncontrollable
situation
How does empathy play into this?
you have to have empathy and common
sense
you can't have people come in here
and tear up the place
yes we want to voice our opinion
and disgust of the outcome
but we can't allow people to tear
our city up
those who are here to do damage are
here to do damage
you can't talk them down
some people are so full of rage and
anger
once night falls it's going to get
dangerous,
I'd advise people to leave.
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Tell Me About empathy?
empathy, we're empathizing with
these young people
unless the elders stand up and
protect them from the police violence
they attacked young
Standing between the two sides?
I'm on the side of the people who
are here angry and protesting
we know it can happen to anybody
trying to protect from provocation
by the police
There's a lack of empathy going on?
the police are not here to be
empathetic
police are here to control
it's about control, power,
shutting down people who are riotously
angry
provoking
If anything the young people were very
empathetic
speaking from their heart, no
violence,
until these cops started moving in on us
even now there's no real violence
How about empathy for the police
behind you?
there are different ways of
policing
We've been fighting 30 years to get
community control of police
We've been trying to develop an
empathetic relationship with our cops
we're still very far apart
Your open to an empathetic
relationship with them?
this is not the time to ask me
about empathy
when I'm jabbed in the back by a
bunch of cops
being jabbed up the street
when we're peacefully protesting
I have no empathy for them right
now
If they want my empathy they can
back off and leave us be
this is what the streets are for
your name?
Ocean? Newman, I'm 71
What can we do to create more
empathy?
they're trained as cops to be in
control and indifferent
they have no sense of the
vulnerability these young people have
they don't see them as their
children
we see them as our children
Can we do it by more talking?
How to create a culture of
Empathy?
Forget about empathy and go for
Justice?
that's the first step
your not going to get empathy
unless you have justice
or peace
if somebody has a foot on your neck
your not going to have a whole lot
of empathy, until they get off,
then we can have a cup of coffee
Now they have gas masks on
ready to shoot us with rubber
bullets, bean bags and tear gas
Maybe could hold a conference on
building a culture of empathy and get everyone together?
The police are not allowed to
talk on camera.
They're talking plenty with their
gas masks and clubs
they threatened us
they called a illegal assembly
everyone peacefully here is now
illegal
each one of us now is subject to
arrest
Who can talk to us?
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Council
District 4 - Jean Quan
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Tell Me About empathy?
I feel for the guy getting arrested
and for the Police Officers
some just doing jobs
business has to go on
and Oscar Grant and Family
Empathy, I have to think about that
for a second
It's hard in a situation like this
I want to see hate stop
Only end hate by learning to
communicate
don't let things escalate
people throwing things
or getting shot
learn to love one another and
ourselves
we have to stop perpetrating
violence
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Tell Me About empathy?
as far as empathy goes, I'm not
feeling it right now
there's no empathy what-so-ever for us
it's just anger
there's no connection
stressful situation
the pushing is adding to the stress
I'm getting pretty juiced up here
myself
I want to do something but kind of
holding back
This is nerve-racking, I feel myself
getting all kind of nervous.
How do you maintain a sense of
empathy?
I feeling a bit hysterical.
At a time like this what kind of stuff
should I ask people about empathy?
no man, your doing great
it's all in the question
I tried asking the police but I don't
think they can talk on camera.
you can't hear their side so it's not
a dialog
How does empathy play into this
situation?
Empathy is putting yourself in
everyone else's shoes?
I am Oscar Grant
I work my ass off
I'm harassed by the cops
If they started empathizing with you
you'd empathize with them?
of course, but that's not going to
happen
look at history
this is the first time a cop has put on trial in
California
A harsher sentence would have meant
they were listening more?
justice would have been justice
he should been held to a higher
standard
all these people being beat down
just because they're standing on 14th
and Broadway
this is a pubic street
Justice is balancing the scale but
it's not real empathy?
empathy is about the heart and soul
it's genuine
it's a real connection
I never seen Mehserle say sorry to the
family or anybody
he's just sorry for himself
He's afraid himself and not listening?
Some bodies got to reach out
somewhere, I'm trying to do my part.
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Eric Butler on Empathy: Oscar Grant - Mehserle Oakland
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Todd Walker on Empathy: Oscar Grant - Mehserle Oakland Verdict Protest
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Tell Me About empathy?
with restoring Intercity Peace
deal with a lot of the violence
want community to get together
logic - teach them how to think
listen
Listening is Empathy?
yes, I listen in meetings
listening will get you a long ways
the kids need someone to listen