Dan shared his
understanding about the importance of empathy and how it works in the
brain thought mirror neurons. "When kids are able to watch an
interaction that's empathic, empathy isn't just being taught; it's being
demonstrated," Talking about the importance of empathic attunement, Dan
says, "When we attune with others we allow our own internal state to
shift, to come to resonate with the inner world of another. This
resonance is at the heart of the important sense of “feeling felt” that
emerges in close relationships. Children need attunement to feel secure
and to develop well, and throughout our lives we need attunement to feel
close and connected." Sub Conference:
At our 2017 Research Symposium, Dr. Dan Siegel spoke about five types of
empathy that are taught in a Roots of Empathy classroom. Dr. Siegel is a
Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine. He is
also the Founding Co-Director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center
At our 2017 Research Symposium, Dr. Dan Siegel spoke about five types of empathy that are taught in a Roots of Empathy classroom. Dr. Siegel is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA School of Medicine. He is also the Founding Co-Director of the Mindful Awareness Research Center at UCLA.
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"When we attune with others we allow our own internal state to shift, to
come to resonate with the inner world of another. This resonance is at
the heart of the important sense of “feeling felt” that emerges in close
relationships. Children need attunement to feel secure and to develop
well, and throughout our lives we need attunement to feel close and
they told scientists not to use the word empathy with Dali Lama.
will confuse him.
empathy and compassion get interchanged and need to be clarified about
Tania Singer Study show and brain study.
people trained in empathy activate internal negative states in
yourself that cause you to burn out.
that when you just feel another persons feelings without an attitude
of wanting to help those other people you just burn out.
where as if you train a person in compassion according to Singer,
then you activate a different set of circuits. The point is they are
distinct, and the person doesn't burn out. and they are associated
with positive emotions.
There is something very different about empathy and compassion.
When you train a person to be empathic they are vulnerable to
getting burnt out. The whole brain gets over activated and shuts
Whereas someone trained in compassion, actually doesn't shut down.
And they increase positive internal states.
In Summary, When you are taught to focus on another persons suffering,
and then then how to skillfully, imagine, plan and get ready to
carry out something to help that other person. You actually
So take home from the Singer study, is we should change the
terminology, that there is no such thing as the common phrase as
compassion fatigue. It is actually empathic fatigue.
That is why distinguishing these two is very important.
When I was in medical school, there was no training in any of this
15:00 He dropped out of med school because of it's lack of humanity,
it didn't deal with the subjective experience of people.
He thought mindsite was missing from med school. Peoples subjective
18:30 - theory of mind - people have a sense that other another person
has a mind
to have compassion you have to see that people have a subjective
suffering is subjective
Empathy you need allow other peoples feelings to come into you.
Kindness - doing something to support someone else without expecting
something in return.
honoring and supporting each others vulnerability - people support
empathic or sympathetic joy - get excited for other peoples joy.
is not part of compassion
30:00 Mind Sight =
empathy, insight into someone else.
Mind Sight means 3 things - an encompassing term
into self (not part of compassion, empathy or kindness)
insight into the inner life of someone else - empathy or empathic
Kindness - going with the vulnerability definition
Mind Sight is a teachable skill
Triangle of human experience
Combine all fields of science into one.
embodied brain - mind - relationships
Relationship is sharing of energy
mind is what the brain does.
mind is not the brain
38:00 - 30 second empathic experience will make you get over your
[this shows that empathy, in and of itself, has positive supportive
effects for well being.}
Our relationships are everything
studies on compassion make your body healthier
[he switches suddenly from empathy to compassion here.]
How can you have two things at the same time.
the system is not limited to the brain and skin boundary.
Energy and information flow. can't be limited to the skull or even
43:30 - we have emergent properties and self organization
energy flow in you and between you (relational).
46:30 - this brings up the issue of empathy, compassion, kindness
brings up 'presence'
what is needed for empathy, compassion, kindness
presence is a portal to integration
presence repairs ?? telomere - chromosomes
mental presence is healthy and good for you
when you have suffering and stress, age faster
presence has lots of good effects
Internal attunement - into self - this is what mindfulness it.
intrapersonal attunement -
turn attention to the internal world of the other.
is what secure attachment is about.
50:30 - Resonance
- allow the inner flow of the other to resonate with yourself.
metaphor of the strings of the guitar to vibrate with with the
other. you don't become the other, you are changed because of the
[maintaining a wide and broad attunement with the other, the
environment, and the inner flow.]
difference between compassion and empathy
[this is where the confusion starts coming in in terms of role taking]
see a car accident
1. what would it feel like if it was you in the accident?
you are becoming the person
huge over identification
brain activation shuts down.
brain regions that are activated
2. what would it feel like for the other person in the accident?
you are being yourself and wondering what that that person feels
brain engages the compassion circuitry
brain regions that are activated
very different experiences
52:00 - empathy is over identification - brain regions that are
SEE the Singer paper
Resonance reminds us we don't want to become the other.
allow yourself to be you.
society doesn't teach this.
we over identify
or we shut people off completely
we can teach the skill of integration
does an exercise with
people to feel different energies
says no, no, no
says yes, yes, yes
59:30 - All suffering relates to the threat state
fear, rage, shame, etc, come from state of threat
we are often in threat state
when we are in threat state we do more in and out group
more kind to in group and more hostile to out-group
[problem of competition]
We are an extended self
'yes' state turns on the social engagement system
receptive state your muscles get more relaxed and open
mindfulness turns on social engagement
[dance and other exercises would do the same]
organization optimizes the movement of a system by linking
differentiated parts of the system
Integration creates harmony
like when a choir sings in harmony
systems that do not link differentiated parts goes into
[note: fight, flight, freeze, dominance, ]
this explains every
symptom of every psychiatric disorder
every disorder shows an
impaired integration of the brain
schizophrenia, manic depressive, autism, neglected or abuse
compassion, empathy, kindness, are forms of integration.
[being heard by others assists with the self and other integration
[the problem with mindfulness is that it doesn't integrate with
others. The integration model is the guru sitting with the students
pouring their 'wisdom' into them.. it's actual a form of dominance]
secure attachment integration - harmony
creates mental coherence
1:08 - chaos and rigidity in your life means something is not
not taking care of the environment is not integrating with nature
healing the planet means integrating with nature
9 areas or types of integration - Wheel of Awareness
any meaningful social change needs to start with reflection
monitoring your internal energy flow and in-between
meditation - mindfulness meditation
Consciousness: the knowing and the known
1:18 - 8. relational sense: this is where compassion,
kindness comes from
9. attention on the knowing of awareness
feeling of love, openness
1:26 - the deep nature of the self is the whole system
We are all nodes of the system.
in modern life we have confused the node with the self instead of
the system with the self.
We need to help give the mental skill to drop into the deeper
[tribal dances, rituals]
The reason compassion and kindness, empathic joy have all these
the benefits give access to the truth of our interconnected nature.
we are built interconnected but families, schools, societies start
convincing us that we are separate
Compassion and altruism studies show its good for your and comes
meaning comes from serving the world
hold both me and we
integrated identity have integrated awareness
compassion and kindness are natural for the mind as breathing is to
1:33:30 - Empathic burnout an impairment in differentiation. Pure
empathy defined that way leads to integration. Integration made
visible is empathic joy, compassion and kindness.
1:34 - Q and A
How do we integrate ISIS?
come from a place of the integration
be responsible for the whole
[have the intention for a culture of empathy]
[can use empathy building processes]
Plane of possibility?
the core - seeing the common humanity
How does centering change outcomes?
emotion is a shift in integration
negative emotion is a downshift in integration
positive emotion is up tick
[Singer study: If you are working on integration, you would be
integrating the different views and understanding of empathy and
compassion. The Singer study and compassion community are not
integrating all the voices about empathy.]
Benefits of empathy
38:00 - 30 second empathic experience will make you get over your cold
[this shows that empathy, in and of itself, has positive supportive
effects for well being.}
This interactive talk will examine two major questions:
What is the mind? and How can we create a healthy mind? We'll examine
the interactions among the mind, the brain, and human relationships and
explore ways to create a healthy mind, an integrated brain, and mindful,
Daniel is a child psychiatrist, educator, and author of Mindsight, The
Parenting from the Inside Out, and The Developing Mind. He is the
Founding Editor of
the Norton Professional Series on Interpersonal Neurobiology,
co-director of the UCLA
Mindful Awareness Research Center, and executive director of the
Google Personal Growth Series Mindsight: The New Science of
presented by Dr. Dan Siegel
April 22, 2009
As part of the Google Personal Growth Series, Google University recently
invited Dan Siegel to address two crucial questions: What is the mind?
and How can we create a healthy mind? In his talk, Dr. Siegel examines
and explores ways to create a healthy mind, an integrated brain, and
mindful, empathic relationships.
How schools can combine with technology for self
the hand model of the brain
Cover 3 topics
what is regulation
what is the self?
likes to have shared definitions
Teach the 3 R
kids can mention their feelings
when you feel you feelings you can understand
schools can teach this
kindness and compassion toward self
number 1 factor in longevity, happiness, is
wisdom is based on positive relationships
give to others give to others
6:00 Hand model of the brain
how it works
brain means the whole body
the head brain
Parts of the brain.
8, 2011 - The
Neurological Basis of Behavior, the Mind, the Brain and Human
At the Garrison Institute's 2011 Climate, Mind and Behavior Symposium,
Dr. Dan Siegel of the Mindsight Institute discusses the neurological
basis of behavior, the mind, the brain and human relationships. Dr.
Siegel puts forth a method of expanding the sense of identity so as to
include other people, species and the planet and proposes the concept of
"we maps." He recommends using the notion of health as a means of
linking individual, community and planetary wellbeing.
Overview - works in an integrative way - interpersonal